Wednesday, January 11, 2006

Why I Hate Mick Jagger

I never bought into that rock-yahoo sloganeering that proclaimed The Rolling Stones to be The Greatest Rock 'n' Roll Band in the World (hereafter: TGRNRBITW), maybe because I was always first and foremost a Beatles fan. They seemed to do everything first, and better, than the Stones, who always seemed to play a game of catch-up, of following the (undisputed) Leader. And, quite frankly, I never thought it was a Hertz vs. Avis, or No. 1 vs. No. 2 battle of the bands anyway - heck, I'd have the Kinks, the Who, the Small Faces, maybe even the Zombies ahead of them in the No. 2 queue. But because friends whose opinions I respect kept telling me to reconsider, I have recently immersed myself in Stones films, books and records to reaccess their oeuvre and see if perhaps I missed something. And I've been able to put my finger on why I never bought into the TGRNRBITHW rap: Mick Jagger. He's a dick. Plain and simple.

But what about longevity, you say? The Stones have spanned 5 decades, therefore they are truly TGRNRBITHW ! Well, the Holy Roman Empire lasted nearly a millennium and the word on the street is it wasn't so hot as empires go. And how long has Cats been running on Broadway? I rest my case! Merely sticking around isn't a guarantee of fame and acclaim. If it was, the bums loitering outside my library would be celebrities and Generalissimo Franco would have been inducted into the Dictators Hall of Fame by now.

But before I take the piss out of Mick, let me mitigate my rant with a few kind words about the others...I pretty much like all the other Stones.

Keith - Keith is a guy who, while he probably deprived the world of greater musicianship and a foil to make himself play better by letting superior guitarist Mick Taylor go and be replaced by his no-threat drink-and-drug buddy Ronnie Wood, always did what he wanted. Where Mick wanted hits, Keith never followed the prevailing winds of musical fashion, instead playing whatever he liked, which just happened to be recycled R&B and Chuck Berry riffs, much like another guitarist I respect - Marc Bolan. Bonus Points: Keith ripped his singer an extra orifice when he became Sir Mick in '92 and also shattered the urban legend about Mick's Priapic proportions in August 2005 when he said, "His cock's on the end of his nose. And a very small one at that. Huge balls, small cock. Ask Marianne Faithful."

Brian - Though his Buster Brown bowl cut hairdo inspired a generation of pedophiles and though he never understood the concept of birth control (having sired 5 illegitimate children by the time he was 24!), I give Brian props for being a flash dresser, for being the most articulate Stone in interviews, and for inspiring Anton Newcombe to name his band the Brian Jonestown Massacre. And by dying young (at the ever popular rock star expiration date of 27, a la Hendrix, Joplin, Morrison), he became a cult legend.

Mick Taylor - Classic tall and silent type, i.e., a total boor. But the Shy Guy sure could play guitar! Probably the most musically accomplished Rolling Stone ever. Sadly, he wasn't much of a writer, being strictly a gifted sideman.

Bill Wyman - The only Rolling Stone to have served Her Royal Majesty, the tiny-fingered, cradle-robbing (remember his anorexic teeny bopper wife Mandy Smith?) ex-RAF airman came up with the uncredited riff to "Jumpin' Jack Flash" and did the music for my favorite Dario Argento film, Opera. More importantly, Wyman had a sense of history, keeping diaries and collecting Stones memorabilia that he ultimately shared with the world in the form of his awesome coffee table book, Rolling With the Stones.

Charlie Watts - Rock solid drummer with great deadpan humor (after introducing a Stones gig in Toronto with a perfunctory "Hello Toronto," Charlie quipped afterwards, "Perhaps I could work up some material with a little more punch"). And because Charlie is my celebrity lookalike, this handsome hunk automatically gets a passing grade! Bonus Points: Charlie once punched Mick when a drunken Jagger swaggered into their hotel room and called out, as if ringing his bell for a servant, "Where's ma drumma?" Charlie, a man of few words, put it to Mick clear as crystal: "Don't ever talk to me like that again." Drum roll, please! (Update - My pal Scott Wallace Brown adds: What he actually said to Mick when he decked him was "Don't ever call me your drummer boy again. You're MY fuckin' SINGER.")

Ronnie Wood - Keith had Woody's essence perfectly: "A perfect blend of talent and bullshit." Woody was a rock 'n'n roll good time guy, not a great guitarist, but complimentary to Keith. And not a boor like Mick T. He and Keith certainly had the rock star guitar moves down. And the hair - he had that great Rock Rooster haircut which complimented Keith's unkempt tonsurial look (though not as much as it complimented Rod Stewart's 'do when they were both in The Faces!).


1. Prancing with Mr. J.: I never liked the way Mick pranced around stage like a Twink. It's downright laughable. Monkey Man, indeed. Worse than Elaine Bennis busting a move on Seinfeld. Everyone from James Brown to Tina Turner claims he stole moves from them, but I guess Mick had the last laugh, getting way more groupies than all his dance role models combined. Chicks love that lonmg-haired, eye-shadowed, glittered androgyny thing, go figure.

2. Cry-Baby! At the sentencing hearing for the infamous 1967 drug bust at Keith's Redlands residence (where Mariane Faithful was in her birthday suit and where Mick was found in possession of "anti-fatigue" Bennies), Mick almost fainted and started to cry like a little baby when the judge handed him a 3-month sentence. What a fucking pussy! At least Keith took it like a (stoned) man, in stoic, Stone-faced silence. Mick was probably distraught at the prospect of going 6 months without coochie - As Tears Go By.

3. Betraying the Faithful. Mick destroyed Marianne Faithfull, soaking up her culture and class, then throwing her away like trash when she became a bother. While in Australia to film Ned Kelly, Mick chose to give an interview to the Australia press while in the next bedroom, Marianne continually called out to him. Later that night it was discovered that she had attempted to commit suicide by taking an overdose of Barbituates. Mick initially poopoo-ed the idea, saying she was overly tired and that it was accidental. How inconvenient for Mick's ego to have to deal with Marianne's fragile mental state as she went into a coma for three days while he had to film his movie.

4. Self-Love: Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the greatest Egotist of them all? Narcissism reached its apex when Mick married his mirror image clone, Nicaraguan hottie Bianca Perez Morena de Macias. Ever the womanizer, Mick quickly forgot his vows when on tour, the most notorious indiscretions occurring in Chicago at Hefner's Playboy mansion. The whole marital incident had shades of the Seinfeld episode where Jerry realized his GF looked just like him. Jerry bailed. Mick jumped right in. Recent pics of Bianca make her look like a cross between Mick and Lauren Bacall. In a bad way.

5. Altamont: Jagger's street cred bottoms out as his panicky, yellow-bellied reaction to Real Life Going Down Bad Around Him is captured by the Maysles Brothers in living, bleeding color in Gimme Shelter. Only "Brownie" and the FEMA crew could have handled a disaster more poorly. Mick's pathetic limp-wristed plea for peace?: "Brothers and sisters, come on now! That means everybody just cool out. We can cool out, everbody! Everybody be cool, now...Okay, I think we're cool, we can groove." The whole idea was rushed, poorly planned, and unnecessary...kinda like another bad idea happening now in Iraq! And to what purpose? Self-promoting publicity and jumping on the Woodstock bandwagon. Deplorable.

6. The Voice: Elvis Costello had it right when he called Mick "not so much a singer as a cheerleader." It's a vocal style that relies mainly on gestures - the aforementioned prancing that masks his woeful warbling with the semblance of continually being out of breath. In fact, Mick the Mumbler has one of the worst voices in the history of rock - comparable to Marlon Brando's singing in Guys and Dolls - and it never improved even when he had the money to get lessons. Probably inspired other mumblers, like Michael Stipe (though thankfully he didn't inspired the prancing dancing).

7. Word Turds: The Lyrics: I always had the feeling that Mick was trying too hard to write "important" lyrics. Dylan said he never tried to write "message" songs and, in fact, turned his back of the Folk Movement for that very reason, of being locked into topicality. Mick always seemed to want to be topical. The songs suffered as a result. Mitigating Factor: I liked the Some Girls songs. I got the feeling that in their vulgaity and misogyny, at least Mick was being free and easy and not caring how it sounded - perhaps this was the influence of punk rock.

8. Under His Thumb - Mick the Misogynist: You'd think somebody done him wrong instead of the other way around. Poor Chrissie Shrimpton gets peeled apart on many a Mick tune, especially on Aftermath. "Stupid Girl," "Under My Thumb," "Play With Fire," "Star Star," "Some Girls," are but a few of his love ballads, and the list goes on. And the original S&M cover of Black and Blue was a doozy, too, lest we forget. Ah, but paybacks ARE a bitch. Especially ones named Luciana Gimenez Morad (pictured above in her "Luci in the Sky with Implants" pose). You might recall that in August of 2000, this Brazilian underwear model gave birth to a little Micky - Mick's seventh child to date (and second illegitimate progeny) - and sued to get child support payments of up to $35K a month. More importantly, she finally got the notoriously tight-fisted and financially (if not sexually) discreet Mick to disclose his exact income and net worth. Dispense with Sympathy for the Devil, as this man of wealth and taste is reportedly worth close to half a billion bucks! That could buy a lot of condoms, Mr. Jagger! You could ever spring for Economy Class flings in future by means of an inexpensive vasectomy!

9. Screw Stu - The Ian Stewart Dust-Off: Waiting on a Friend? Hardly. The Kid Stays OUT of the picture. Mick and the boys never gave it a second thought when long-time friend and ORIGINAL MEMBER Ian Stewart, who played boogie-woogie piano, was kicked out for looking like Jay Leno. Andrew Loog Oldham and the record company suits told the boys that he didn't look the part and, as we all know, image is everything. Especially the bad boy image so carefully crafted by AOL, and Stu, with his golf shirts and khakis, never fit that part. He was too cool to care about image.

10. The Man Dress: What was Mick thinking when he wore that ridiculous and foppish dress at the 1969 Hyde Park Concert? Besides the sartorial transgression, Mick was also guilty of the even greater crime of pretention when he unleashed hundreds of butterflies and recited - or attempted to recite, in between mumbles and mispronunciations - a Shelley poem in memorium for the recently deceased Brian Jones. All very pretentious and disingenuous, considering the shabby way Brian was treated by Mssrs. Jagger (who slept with Brian's girlfriend Anita Pallenberg during the filming of Performance) and Richards (who added the final nail in the coffin by stealing Brian's old lady later that year).

11. The Rock and Roll Circus: For nearly three decades, Mick held up the release of Stones' 1968 TV special The Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus. Director Michael Lindsey-Hogg (isn't that a wonderful British hyphenated name?) had been hired to film the Beggars Banquet-era Stones performing with The Who, Taj Mahal, Jethro Tull and The Dirty Mac (an impromptu supergroup comprised of John Lennon, Eric Clapton, Hendrix drummer Mitch Mitchell, and Keith Richards on bass), with midgets, fire-eaters and other sideshow diversions. It was initially rumored that the Stones held up release because they felt their performance paled when set against that of The Who, whose performance of "A Quick One While He's Away" was later allowed to be excerpted for the 1979 documentary The Kids Are Alright. The film was finally released on video in 1996 and the DVD version came out in 2004. But according to Bill Wyman's commentary track on the DVD, it wasn't the band's performance that made Mick hold up the release - it was Mick's own performance that he felt was subpar. Apparently, there wasn't room under the Big Tent for Mick's considerable ego. And hence, Stones, Who, Jethro Tull, Lennon, Clapton, and Taj Mahal fans had to wait 28 years to see this historic film. Thanks Mick! You can put down your vanity mirror now!

12. You're So Vain - The 1969 Rainbow Room Press Conference: Glib Mick answers a reporter's query on whether the "I Can't Get No Satisfaction" Mick is now satisfied. "You mean sexually?" Mick counters, ever the carefully planned provocateur. "Sexually yes, financially no, philosphically trying." It's a famous line, but comes off as trying too hard to be witty. The Beatles were great at this sort of thing, as was Dylan, because they said what came naturally. They weren't TRYING to be clever. They just were.

13. The Disser of Oz: Mick's dis of the Land of Oz in July 1969 while filing Ned Kelly, about their national hero, was a doozy. "Huh! Those Australians. They really are dummies! They're so pathetic. When it comes to acting, they make out it's something special. It's not. It's just as natural as singing. You either can do it or you can't." Yeah, right. Like he would know!

14. The Sullivan Sell-Out: When Ed Sullivan asked Mick to substitute the line "Let's spend some time together" during the performance of the song "Let's Spend the Night Together," he willingly agreed. What a rebel. What Would Lennon Do? YOu know the answer. And we know what Elvis would do - Costello, that is. He'd change the tune to his terms. That's only the spirit of rock 'n' roll - but I like it, yes I do.

15. You're So Respectable: Sir Mick, a convicted drug felon and wanton womanzier, was knighted back in 1992 (with creds like that, one wonders why it took so long!). Back in 1969, a reporter asked Mick how he felt about John Lennon returning his MBE from the Queen, and the Mickster replied that he should have done it sooner, and that that's what he would have done. How ironic, as Alannis Morrisette would say. I say, what a hypocrite.

I like that Mick wrote a song that ticked off Fox TV and the NFL. In fact, Fox TV is trying to get the NFL to cancel Mick Jagger's Super Bowl performance contract because he wrote "Sweet Neo Con," which they consider anti-Americain (hey Mick, the Prez says if you're not with us - like Hank Williams, Jr. and all those Country & Western Redneck Patriots - you're against us). Fox, the NFL and Mick: The Axis of Dickdom.


Blogger Louis Fowler said...

This is brilliant--it NEEDS to be published so everyone can read it!!!!

1:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In this month's issue of The New Yorker, Sasha Frere Jones (I think) describes the vastly overpriced Rolling Stones tour (three-figure tickets (!!!!) for the good seats!) as "Rich people watching rich people." So brilliant, and when I saw your diatribe I had to share.

1:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Three necessary additions:

-Marianne Faithfull spells her last name with TWO "L"s.

-Heightening the Charlie Watts props: what he actually said to Mick when he decked him was "Don't ever call me your drummer boy again. You're MY fuckin' SINGER."

-When the Stones performed "Let's Spend 'Some Time' Together" on Sullivan, Jagger makes a disgusted face every time he sings the substituted line.

I believe it IS an Avis-vs.-Hertz-type issue, by the way. "Why are we fighting? ... Who's fighting and what for?"

1:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, even though this post is a year old, I gotta give you props. I found this after searching for "misogyny Mick Jagger" - my friend and I are emailing one another back and forth about misogyny in hip hop, and how Mick Jagger & Co. are guilty of the exact same thing but instead of censoring them, we're putting them on Best Of lists.

Even better, I've got two friends who are going through a HUGE Stones phase, and a "Mick-Jagger-is-God" phase, which I didn't really understand initially, but your words outlined all those weird little thoughts I couldn't put my finger on.

Anyway, a year old or no, rock on. I'm going to email this to both my Jagger-loving friends and the ones who think he's a sexist asshole.

11:01 PM  
Blogger wintergreen88 said...

What about Brian Jones and the way Mick Jagger treated him? There are many sources of information on this.

1:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like the Rolling Stones and I think Mick Jagger and the Stones have take a lot of stick over the years from starting as the pretend blues wailing wannabe Beatles, to dubious counter culturists to uber capitalists. Just a few points though: Ian Stewart -As an original founder of the Rollin' Stones along with Ian Stewart, Brian Jones was probably more culpable than the others in agreeing with the Loog to turf Ian Stewart; Mick and Anita -when Mick allegedly slept with Anita Pallenberg on the set of Performance, she was Keith Richard’s girlfriend and had already left Brian long before his death; Dissing Australians: Jagger’s mother Eva was actually Australian; His “philosophically satisfied” remark -I think it’s unfair to claim Jagger does not have a clever sense of humour based on a sound bite from 1969.

2:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for this. I agree completely, and I wonder what the Stones (and Faithfull and Jones) would have been without Mick around.

8:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dick Jagger.

8:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mick Jagger sucks ass. Good report... even with the large amount of mistypes and errors.

5:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

two words I find missing from your screed here ... jealousy and envy...
I believe that is at the heart of your rants against the greatest entertainer(s) of the rock era and two of the very best songwriters (Jagger/Richards) on top of it all, Mick really can sing .. and dance...
eat your hearts out, losers ...

7:45 PM  
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4:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't it about the music?!? What about the fantastic music he wrote with Keith? If you want, you can make comments like this on just about every artist that was around. Like Elvis, Cash, The Beatles and all the other great ones, they also were no angels... Sure Jagger has a huge ego, but that does not make me hate him. You might be jealous he gets away with all of this. You might be jealous because your blog gets 40 hits a day, which is still less then the number of hits he wrote.

4:16 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Why someone bother to write this kind of statement? I mean really, why you hate some rockstar/celebrity/etc? This kind of opinion is bit teenager, isn't it? If you don't like Jagger then fine, but why bother to hate him? Oh come mate, grown up. What next? I hate Santa Claus? I hate the lady in next door? I hate your mother? I hate your shoes?


9:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mick Jagger wrote Wild Horses. You wrote this. I'm sure Mick is losing sleep.

8:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This bloke is a fucking idiot.

3:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only way I'd ever respect this twat is if he said the following: "I'm only in it for the money, fame, and 20 year old hoes. So long as I am richer than Elton, Bowie, Bono, and Jimmy Page, then I am happy. I have not written a good song in 35 years. The Rolling Stones were never 1/10th as good as Led Zeppelin."

11:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, well, well... This was pretty funny. I love the Stones and Mick, and I love the Beatles. It isnt mutually exclusive at all. They're all great, their music, their life stories, their personalities. Now you can always 'not like' someone like Mick, and there are indeed lots of little things here and there that can make him look like a self-absorbed manipulative egomaniac or whatever, but isnt it the case for most successful people anyway? After all, ambition is fueled by frustration, then talent and chance do the rest. So how could one expect to find an angel in a rockstar? Ive heard the same kind of things about Paul, John, Madonna etc etc. Its still funny though, it almost makes me like them even more. Peace.

1:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, someone's jealous of a certain group of people. May I be allowed to tear your life apart and nit-pick your shortcoming, mister??
Jagger is a brilliant man. He is sexy, smart and talented. He's gifted. People are people, they aren't perfect. Nor is the asshole who wrote this crap article.
The Rolling Stones are the best band EVER to be around. Always will be that way. Doubt it? Why are they still touring and selling out shows 45 years later?? haha...gotcha there!
Such a crap article, go make fun of yourself. Might make you improve on imperfections.

5:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree Jagger is the least likable member of the band and you have some valid points, but really you lost all credibility as someone whose opinion on the Stones is of the slightest interest as soon as you said the Beatles were so great. They sucked and were never 1/10th the band the Stones are today, let alone what the Stones were in their heyday. The Beatles are the most useless and overrated band ever and that has to do with them sucking, not anything to do with a Stones rivalry. Imagine how easy it would be to skewer that poseur John Lennon in such a fashion as you did Jagger.

4:02 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

There was something uncomplimentary Mick said about Marc Bolan ... I've been searching for it...If anybody knows what it is, pls post it ot emial me a



2:31 PM  
Anonymous Krautball said...

I couldn't agree more. Jagger is so grossly overrated, it's ridiculous. In the 1990s German carmaker Volkswagen dedicated the "Golf Rolling Stones" model edition to them, even holding a press conference where Mick "The Colossal Prick" Jagger condescendingly announced: "I, of course, drive a Mercedes!", which didn't go down too well with VW top brass...

11:24 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

The last Beatles concert was in 1966. The last Stones concert as of yet was 2007. 40 plus years of pure LIVE rock and roll. The Stones can't be touched no matter their faults.

3:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're a stupid homosexual.

2:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Agreed. I hate that oversexed "everybody look at my dick" prance around like a diva frontman bullshit. Just earlier today i was in a heated argument with yet another dumbass who sweats mick jagger's nuts. God, all those morons who think the stones are better than the beatles. too stupid to understand the complexities and subtleties of good music. At least the beatles were original. not just a knockoff of chuck berry and every other great american musician. All they did was follow a formula. The foul stench of inflated ego wafts from every word jagger ever spoke.

3:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am afraid you have a lot of envy for Jagger. I am sure his accomplishments in life surpass yours by a million fold. Anyone who hates someone else that much has to be messed up in the head. Let's face it, the guy is rich, he is a good singer, probably the best frontman in the history of rock, one of the best song writers and he can play over a dozen instruments and speak three languages. I hate to say this but it sounds like you are the one that has a problem wtih the size of your manhood.

10:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All successful people are ripped apart by the ignorant. When people write stupid stuff like this is when you know you have make it to the top. Of course the rest of you Jagger haters are probably just redneck far right Republicans.

11:03 AM  
Blogger johnnytheg said...

I couldn't agree more!! Perfectly put.

10:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you!!!!!!! I have been making this argument for years. He really is the worst most offensive singer in R&R history. His absurd step n' fetchit mimicking of a black blues singer fall somewhere between laughable and skin crawling. I will give him props on songwriting. They should have put him on tambourine and hired Rod Stewart, who is head and shoulders above Mick the Dick as both showman and singer. And to all the people above who have tried to argue a counterpoint with the longevity claim, it takes years for shit to decompose.

12:02 PM  
Blogger johnnytheg said...

John Lennon said it best, he called Mick "the Charlie Chaplin of Rock and Roll"

12:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this blog is the biggest peice of shit i have ever read. your the real dumbass. you sit around and write stuff about someone you hate. i think it might be time to let go. if you hate him so much why take the time and write all of this? the beatles made a mark in history but the stones did too. the stones kept going and are still going. sure the deal with charlie makes me laugh but mick was drunk while he said it. i was glad to see charlie do that. i always felt he deserved more but i love him as a stone. sure the dances mick does is kinda funny but thats what makes mick him! the dancing to keiths and ronnies riffs and to the pounding of charlies drums. its one thing to dislike him but i dont think you need to hate him and bitch about him in a blog. your the type of person who sits around the house all day thinking about what to blog about to get people pisssed and to follow your little virgin site.

2:46 PM  
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8:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a giant mick / stones fan, and I found this review pretty funny. Sure there are always going to be qualities in people you don't like, especially the super successful. As people, we don't fully understand what envy does to our emotions and actions (especially men). It creates feelings of anger / confusion, not a big deal, just part of being a person. But what I don't get about Mick dislikers is how they just can't extract the pure entertainment value from his antics. He's an entertainer, he was fueled by drugs and extreme vanity back in the 70' can you not love the ridiculousness of it? Check out "if you can't rock me" on youtube from '75...and just imagine how much fun it would have been to be Mick Jagger in that time period.

1:27 AM  
Anonymous big al said...

I was a teenager at school when the beatles, the stones and bob dylan crashed onto the scene in the early sixties, the fact is all three acts are brilliant. they are popular with the teenagers of today, but I dont blame teenagers liking real music instead of rubbish like the spice girls, lady gaga and girls aloud, I rest my case.

4:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its really wierd that you sat nd wrote this crap.I am not sure i fully understand your motive too much time on your hands or what?
Of course Mick has a big ego he is a rock star !The two things go hand in hand. I bet if you had people all over the world telling you how great you are and linning your pockets with more money then you could spend in a lifetime you too would be on an ego trip.Lets face the rolling stones are one of the best most brilliants bands to ever exist even 40 years later they are still goung far as the illegitamite children well..when these women hoked up with him they had to know already that he was not the sort of nine to five guy who would come home from work each day baring flowers. or a dad who would be outside having a game of catch with junior. Plus he is butt ugly but hes rich so he gets hot women he may be using women but they are using him also! come on do you really think he would have women all over the world panting at his feet if he was an average joe? nope its because of his fame and money!

5:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of the bands from the Sixties were valid spokemen(or women)for the excesses and frustrations of the young back then. I loved them all, especially the Stones, because they stuck a big middle finger in the faces of the "Establishment".And the "Establishment" back then needed a swift ass-kicking from the young, otherwise I think would even have been worse by now(if thats possible?!?!) So there isn't a damn thing bad I would say against any of the Stones,Beatles,etc.. Thank God they were there for us!!!

1:55 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

You seemed to be threatened by the success of someone who had nothing and made something out of himself. Please, put this into perspective; Mick Jagger earned every penny he has ever made. If he didn't earn it, he never would have gotten it. Your opinion is just that, an opinion. You sight a number of Mr. Jaggers foibles. He has many, to be sure. But, you seem to be arguing against his success, because of his success. What would you have him do? Resign? He has a fan-base, despite you and your rants. And there, you will find the source of his success. He's an entertainer. I never thought that much of the B-52's, but I wish them no ill-will. Have a nice day.

9:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When future generations look back on the Rock and Roll era Mick Jagger will always immediately be recognized as the greatest live performer ever. That is indisputable. You can look at Sinatra and write the same story this blogger just did. People followed the Stones for the music which is what it is all about to begin with. The fact that the band was so head and shouders better, wilder and more interesting than any others once the boring but talented Beatles split has led to every aspect of their lives being reported and in this case attacked.

Jagger is also a brilliant business man.

P.S. Listen to Jagger's voice on:
Wild Horses - Lets Spend The Night Together- Angie- Aint Too Proud to Beg. The man when the song required had a good enough voice.

7:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Mick would say "rubbish".

7:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don,t become a rock journalist you silly old Hector, remember what Zappa said.

12:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don,t become a rock journalist you silly old Hector, remember what Zappa said.

12:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I just read a lot of Facebook posts from people going crazy because Jagger sang on the 2011 Grammys - I thought he sucked, but I've always thought he sucked. He can't sing, he moves around like a twitchy, self important prancing prick. I just don't see what people see in him AT ALL. I've never been a Rolling Stone fan, though. To me, their energy is very dark and sinister, by their own design, and it doesn't impress me. Some of his songs are not bad, but good God, he's been singing the SAME DAMN SONGS for 40 years! That is nothing to be proud of. It's interesting to read all the comments on this blog. I know mine will never be seen as it's four years later, but I am so glad to find someone who shares my opinion, and actually backs it up with SOLID research. Kudos, dude!

1:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Top 5 rock groups of all time!
1) Rolling Stones (60s - 70s)
2) Kinks (60s - 90s)
3) Yardbirds (Clapton era)
4) Small Faces (60s)
5) Animals (60s) Zombies (60s) -tie

Beatles don't count - they could play rock but they were a pop band that became an experimental band.

Fuck the Who, fuck Led Zeppelin, fuck everybody else!!!!

8:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

leave mick jagger and his dancing alone! just stick with your justin bieber.

3:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are a turd!!!! I love The Kinks, The Who an The Zombies....not even CLOSE!!! Good Lord You Suck!!!!

5:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man,you are a bitter person! You should get some therapy!

1:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're a douche!!!!

Sorry, but being negative isn't cool.

If you make your life better you may be happy.

Good luck!

6:27 AM  
Anonymous Joshj said...

You love the Beatles but don't seem to point out how they were cry baby's, drug users, slept with more women than all of us combined, and broke up after a decade. The stones defined rock and roll, ya they all have their own share of negative qualities, but who are you to sit in your room and point them all out? If your getting paid to bash people who have made more accomplishments in their lives than you will ever dream of, we all need to reconsider whats important and what the country's money should be going towards. So as you continue to write blogs about how insightful and intellectual you think you are, just remember the greatest rock band is going on a 50th anniversary your this summer. What will you be doing when your 68 years old?

1:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From a teenagers view in the 60's.. There was a lot of good bands around then, Beatles, Stones and many more. For me it was the Stones.
Back then it was wot ever floated your boat.. The Beatles was ok but never quite had that rough edge like the Stones had for me..
However few years ater the Beatles parted company Lennon and Harrison seemed to come on real strong in my view with the songs and music that they put out. Sadly they both went before there time..
At the end of the day the Stones are still rocking.. and thats wot counts, Been to few concerts over the years including Hyde Park.. all great shows and hoping maybe one or 2 more.
As for the author of this blog/page.. chill out dude.. its only "Rock n Roll" but we like it.. lmao Cris..

8:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I couldn't disagree with everyone on here Mick is the best frontman ever to appear on stage and they are the worlds greatest rock and roll band ever the Beatles are good but more folklore music

8:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back in 1978 or so I was taking a friend to JFK Airport in New York. While hanging about waiting for my friend to get processed I spotted a group of South American ladies, Mick's daughter "Jade" and of course there was Mick Jagger. At the time I was an avid stones fan and was a bit excited to see the "Mick" standing there. Mick walked out the revolving doors to get some air and as he was walking past me I said "Hi Mick". He smiled and kept moving past and could not be bothered. I agree that Mick is a selfish DICK and the nerve of The United Kingdom to knight such a womanizing selfish jerk. There are many soldiers or volunteer folks that would deserve to be knighted. Mick Jagger is not an example of a "Knight". With a few exceptions - after 1975 - the Stones were basically a supremely boring product, nothing new, ground breaking or exciting - shame on you Mick Jagger! You owe a lot more than you ever gave!

2:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hello...back in the mid 1960s,i had a friend that was a director at desilu studios...he said the stones came there for a look-see one day and he said that they smelled like they hadnt had a bath in weeks...i thought the guy was full of crap for 40 years till i read keith richards book ''LIFE'...'he talkes about the group not bathing for long periods of time...something that they came up with for image sake,but it didnt go over well so they started bathing weekly...

3:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said... 1970 the stones were doing a concert in a city in the end of the concert charle watts threw his drum sticks into the brother was there and one of the sticks hit him in the chest and fell on thr floor between the rows of seats...he dove on it,and people then dove on him like a dog pile of football players...he found the stick and put it down his pants,then dug himself out of the pile of people and walked away...years later he gave the stick to me which i still have as of 2012..i remember the brand name on the stick said REGAL...OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT...

4:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jagger is talented. I don't like the Usher type of singers. I like the Paul McCartneys, Lennons, Keith Relf, Layne Staley, MICK JAGGER. He sounds great on Get Yer Ya Ya's Out. Sway is fantastic singing. Mick Taylor is not boring and he is definitely the best musician to ever grace that band. Jagger is offensive in ways and an ass, but he is cool at times and dances his own way. Fuck being perfect.

4:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get Yer Ya Ya's Out is every bit as cool and impressive as Led Zeppelin's early stuff to me. I am not a fan of current Stones band. Hell, i don't like much with Taylor only because they extended the band with the horn section. They didn't need no fucking horns. '69 Stones kick so much ass. To hell with overplaying and oversinging bastards getting so much credit as being great. So many more less gifted singers and players give way more soul and know how than Whitney Houston and those types.

4:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no doubt in my mind that Mick Jagger is a pompous womanizing - people hurting S.O.B. After Mick Taylor left the group there was no real point in admiring the musical quality of the stones. True that a lot of their songs are very good - no doubt - lots of good rock. The only thing that I have a very large problem with is that only a man of TRUE Honor should be knighted - Mick Jagger is far from being a noble man! I once met him (or observed him) at close proximity at JFK Airport in the late 70's - I simply said hi Mick - he looked at me half assed smirk and slipped away into a side bar. Did not get a good vibe from him. Anyone that pays thousands to see the stones is a moron. One respectable man in the group - Charlie Watts - the only thing decent about these men.

5:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Always entertaining to see a middle aged man engage in a pissing contest with his own projected feelings towards a larger than life celebrity. Paging Dr. Freud...

4:01 PM  
Anonymous Daddio said...

Nice! Have been tyring to explain the same to a Stones fan for years. As well as being a creep, I can't get into the simple, unmusical, same old, same old, stuff from Mick.

3:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mick is a dick true. I wish I knew if he really wrote half of what is credited to him. It seems odd he will have a nugget of greatness around trash. Compared to a writer like Tom Petty, who still writes poetry 40 years after beginning, I would put song for song of Pettys against Micks. Mich had 8 number one hits, but the overall body of work is not spectacular, it is not the beatles, or even Petty's. They simply outlasted everyone and came around at the perfect time.

3:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mick is a dick true. I wish I knew if he really wrote half of what is credited to him. It seems odd he will have a nugget of greatness around trash. Compared to a writer like Tom Petty, who still writes poetry 40 years after beginning, I would put song for song of Pettys against Micks. Mich had 8 number one hits, but the overall body of work is not spectacular, it is not the beatles, or even Petty's. They simply outlasted everyone and came around at the perfect time.

3:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mick is a dick true. I wish I knew if he really wrote half of what is credited to him. It seems odd he will have a nugget of greatness around trash. Compared to a writer like Tom Petty, who still writes poetry 40 years after beginning, I would put song for song of Pettys against Micks. Mich had 8 number one hits, but the overall body of work is not spectacular, it is not the beatles, or even Petty's. They simply outlasted everyone and came around at the perfect time.

3:47 AM  
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3:48 AM  
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3:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nothing but hate on the stones if YOU don't like the stones that's your problem the rolling stones are and well remain rock and roll gold!

6:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was not true that Jagger kicked Stew out of band. It was madr clear to the band that they had to have only 5 members and Stew was fine with being a roadie with thm later. Stones treated the matter better than Beatles did with Pete Best. If you are blaming solely Jagger for The Stewart incident, you are seriously biased against him.

2:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Beatles SUCK, the first Boy Band wimpy haircuts, wimpy suits wimpy songs " Love me do, I want to hold your hand. The Beatles, One direction, Bay city rollers, The Monkees what is the difference. Marketing hype and crap music and Garbage and a bunch of pussy's

12:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hardly feel sorry for him today. Poor woman. I love the band, just find him a terrible person,

4:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nobody deserves that pain, but, still find it hard to pity him,

5:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is pretty old, but I just twigged this week that Mick Jagger is a narcissist. I've never liked him, and always thought he was a crap singer. I never liked how he pranced around on stage, etc. But I recently dated a narcissist and he was exactly like Jagger - charming, narcissistic and toxic to women. I really liked the Marianne Faithfull quote you included about how women were props to his ego (in different words, though). Makes you wonder what Mick Jagger was trying to prove. He's a shell! Narcissists burn the people around them. It

5:04 AM  
Blogger Christopher London said...

The debts of L'Wren Scott's Global Fashion Brand are "Corporate Debts" which are presumably not-guaranteed personally or secured by her personal assets. This is why the narrative of her being in financial straits was absolutely misleading. Many corporate enterprises can "Restructure" their debt either in court under Chapter 11 of the Bankruptcy Code which allows a company to come up to pay creditors pursuant to a court ordered reorganization plan. Under that scenario, the debtor entity remains viable. For example, were she or say other lead designers still alive, creditors sometimes might consider out of court restructurings where the debtor corporation has a fresh source of capital and new business but is hemoragging from debt service. In some cases they will even trade equity for debt or simply reduced interest rates, a longer term and some markdown of the debt. BUT, since L'Wren Scott is DEAD and their is likely no point for the entity to remain or continue as a VIABLE concern, in all likelihood, a Trustee will be appointed to LIQUIDATE her fashion brand under Chapter & of the Bankruptcy Code. Hence, Mick Jagger who clearly quite well protected in all likelihood insisted on a pledge of her private assets as a condition of his financing her lifestyle and enterprise. I am quite sure that L'Wren Scott had no plans of dying otherwise she might have had her will redrafted so as not to live a a duplicitous, cheating reptile of a human being with a survivorship interest in her personal assets in the event of her death. Jagger is NOTORIOUSLY CHEAP and CONTROLLING and it fits his M.O.that he would have wanted some degree of control over L'Wren Scott. His generosity clearly was not unconditional. Given SIR MICK JAGGER'S "CHARACTER" (Cheap, Controlling and Egotistical) along with his history with women.....and its likely that L'Wren Scott was worth more DEAD than ALIVE at this point to Mick Jagger which is why I think he was somehow involved in bringing about the end of her life. I know I am in the minority on this....but I think this SOB is a money grubbing scoundrel who also had a hand in Brian Jones' premature death as well. The onlt thing Jagger seems to like more than vagina or DAVID BOWIE'S penis is $$$$MONEY.

10:22 PM  
Blogger Christopher London said...

ARROGANCE of the Rolling Stones to call themselves the Greatest Rock & Roll Band of All Time. It is also a load of crap. They have for decades made crappy largely unmemorable music. The Stones continued to play because Mick Jagger is a scheming MISER and Drug Addicts need cash for more drugs.

4:47 PM  
Anonymous Death Panel Truck said...

You keep using that word - boor - in describing Mick Taylor. Please look up the word and study its meaning before using it again. Boor is absolutely the last word any halfway decent writer would use to describe Mick Taylor.

12:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hate the arrogant Mick Jagger too. I always thought he danced like he had a stick up his rear.

12:07 AM  
Blogger JR33 said...

Love the article! I've always liked the Rolling Stones but I find them vastly overrated. They are not close to the Beatles or Dylan. There is no denying they have produced great music and are one of the best of all time. Some of you commenters are missing the author's point. He loves the band. He just believes the lead singer is a dick who doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as music's best: Beatles and Dylan. I prefer Zeppelin, Floyd, Doors, Who, Chilli Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins etc etc. Mick Jagger is considered music's best entertainer. So if you believe music is about being entertained then i can understand why you have a problem with this man's opinion. But if you look at music for it's overall artistic quality then the Stones don't come close to a lot of bands. That is not the band's fault. That is Mick Jagger's fault. The man has a very elementary understanding of the world around him and it shows in his lyrics. He knows about women and about his ego. I find most of the Beatle-hating, Stones fans to be simple minded. To hate the Beatles (and to not objectively understand they are by far the most important band in history)is just sad.

12:24 AM  
Blogger Lii said...

I cannot believe you waste your pathetic life by sitting around writing this crap!

8:08 PM  
Blogger JenS said...

I loathe Mick Jagger and Keith Richards for suing Verve for Bittersweet Symphony even though half their musical library they lifted from the blues.

5:48 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

It's interesting to see how many obvious morons have attacked this article in the comments, thereby strengthening many of the points made. And they sued Carter USM for using "Goodbye Ruby Tuesday". Pricks.

11:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only thing I respect from those fuckwits called the Rolling Stones is they sued the fucking Verve which is a mediocre pseudo revivalist crap. On the other hand everyone who has listened Gram Parsons compositions would agree that it was Gram who composed Wild Horses, which anyways is not but an overrated but beautiful ballad. Third Mick Jagger is the greatest great twat, imbecile and so on if you had a doubt just check his pic with Peter Tosh, for fuck sake, no decency at all. And with that said, just say hi to Mick Taylor.

10:14 AM  
Blogger Urban Elder said...

Thanx... I've never liked misogynist Mick.

1:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are some cats here who display mega insecurities. If the Stones really were the greatest, then people should feel secure in their opinion. Why then would they be so offended by what this guy writes in a blog? If you know the stones were the greatest then they were the greatest and you shouldn't have to defend them or feel so offended. Given some of the responses here, it's obvious that people are insecure about the fact that they're worshipping crap and have wasted time worshipping crap. Thats the subconscious insecurity, thats why people get offended by shit like this.

For the record, Richards was always the talented one. Richards WAS the stones. A fact that Jagger himself realised when he tried to go solo and it sounded like shit, whilst Richards going solo sounded like the Stones. Everybody from that point on, including Jagger, knew who was responsible for the Stones sound.

Jagger is the equivalent of the jester in front of the band. He's just there to add interest. He cant fucking sing, and he cant dance. He can write a mean line or two, I'll give him that. But not eveything he touches is gold, its just that in the consumerism period that the stones took advantage of, people just feel the need to consume consume consume. Just because you sold a million records, it doesn't mean the record was good. It means you marketed it well. People are sheep they'll fucking buy anything if you put the right wrapper on it.

And the Stones never were counter culture, if they had been, they would not have sold so many records to so many consumers. Nobody has profitted more from capitalism and consumerism than the Stones. Sound like counter culture to you or just another bunch of cynical wankers who disappeared up their own arses some time around the early 70's.

I'll tell you why the Stones havent dont anything good since the early 70's and shows how untalented they actually are. It's because recording gear was made a certain way in the early days. It led to dirty recordings which sounded fucking great, especially for blues and soul. From the 70's onwards, the equipment was built "better" and sounds became very clean and clear. The Stones best stuff was all dirty, fuzzy, dusty shit made on old technology. Any band worth its salt could make the new clean gear sound old. They didn't. They couldn't. They took advantage of a certain sound that came from the equipment of the time, and when the equipment modernised, the stones were left back in the 60's and thats where they should have stayed.

And lastly, nobody can bring themselves to say it, and since I dont give a shit about popularity I'll say it. The Stones were always shit live. They are a studio band. Anyone can chuck out a decent record when you've a) got all the time in the world to play it and b) you can layer as many instruments together as you like.

Now try playing 7 guitars yourself on stage. Cant be done. Thats why the stones sound like shit live. All their tricks were done in the studio which brings you to the conclusion that its recording gear that gives the stones its sound, technology not talent.

Thats why Richards once said that good rock n roll didn't have anything to do with technology. He was trying to throw people off the scent, the Stones sound was ALL to do with the technology of the time. Take them out the studio and into a live setup and the situation changes drastically. They lose something. And its the extra layered tracks they lose. And therefore, they lack something on stage. Thats why they need a distraction and thats all that fucking Jagger ever was.

4:13 PM  
Blogger Eklectic1 said...

Yeah, he's a jerk, but I don't spend much time thinking about him. Apparently you do.

8:01 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

I agree with everything said about Jagger in this article. I always felt he was an asshole and couldn't sing. Even Sonny Bono had a better voice.
Perhaps the comment Andy was looking for about Marc Bolan was that Keith Richards once said that Bolan and T.Rex were a "manufactured" band.
Jagger, through his actions, comes across as self-centered. According to many accounts, Jagger led the group to expel Jones, probably because he was jealous. He has never acknowledged Jones as the founder of the group (and name) and the person who hired everyone else.
The dick move of all time was allowing Oldham to fire Stew, the pianist.

6:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1) I'd like to point out to all these people who lambast you for having taken the time to write this, that they took the time to read it.
2) Saying all rock stars are egotistical is lazy and invalid as a means of refuting your argument. Even if they were you take pains to point out specific examples that support your conclusion, which is, if I may, that: Mick is a bit of dick, and fairly overrated.
3) Saying you must be jealous of him is also knee jerk, and spurious. Are you jealous of everyone who's 'Accomplishments' supposedly outshine your own? You mention the Beatles and Bob Dylan in a favorable light so probably not. Are you jealous of Jimmy Hendrix? It's a fascile point. You might also ask them why they identify so closely with someone who's accomplishments so clearly outshine their own?
Finally, I don't think you are saying that the Rolling Stones are God Awful, or that they never made good music. Your saying their lead singer is disingenuous/selfish/ and only interested in his own aggrandizement, which is a valid point, and which frankly are attributes that start to look pretty greasy when you crease seventy. I might suggest that people respond so emotionally because they identify with the kind of shallow posturing Mick typifies: All (Jumpin' Jack) Flash, little substance. Maybe without such dim associations to define them, they might have to go out and construct an identity at this late day not based on an alter-ego from the nineteen sixties...but best not think about that..quick play Honkey Tonk Women!
To be fair I do like, 'Tumbling Dice,' and, 'Wild Horses,' but as for Mr. Jagger I think he typifies a lot of the failings of that post war generation...although not as well as John Lennon I guess he loses again. Not Mick's day!

1:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ya know,We all know jaggers no musician.aaand,u may not like his stage acts,but,wasn't that the point?To me,this is the greatest thing about it. To this day,no-one offends more people than the master. I love it. Sorry,but rock'n'roll with no attitude is well,jazz.

9:06 PM  
Blogger Jonno said...

On July 18th, 1972 at the Seattle Coliseum, Mick Jagger pointed a confetti-puking dragon RIGHT AT ME and COVERED me in confetti! Then Mick Jagger THREW a BUCKET of WATER AT ME and others. I sent him a bill for the dry cleaning. He never paid it. I'll get him one day, if I have to pay five hundred dollars for another front row seat!!! [I think this is funny. You think this is funny. You read it, didn't ya?]

10:33 AM  
Blogger Enemy of The People/ Friend of The Person said...

Succinct and brilliant!

7:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Music for sociopaths who don't appreciate music, but who want to fit in and be 'cool', because everyone else is following.

The Rolling Stones are a fashion label for the vacuous, much like The Ramones. The quality of the music doesn't matter.

And the way Jagger treats women is appalling. He is Hugh Hefner twin who's been over prescribed meds in the nursing home and somehow been let loose on a stage. The insanity needs to stop.

7:45 AM  
Blogger said...

Doesn't necessarily follow that The Stones are "better" than the Beatles ever were. Longevity does not equal brilliance, it just means they chose to stick it out for the long term. Hands down, The Beatles were more ground-breaking and musically talented than the Stones.

9:00 PM  
Blogger said...

Yes, yes, yes - that is my big beef with The Stones. Mick Jagger behaves like he is God's gift to women, when in reality (for many of us) he couldn't be further from it. Can't stand the way he prances around on stage, and he is also very skinny & wirey, which makes his "raunchy" movements really awkward looking and ugly. Not a fan - never have been. I did, however, really enjoy Kenny Everett's send up of Mick Jagger. Off to youtube it now.

9:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The beatles were great delete this comment you stupid clown god I wish I could see you in person and gouge your eyes out

12:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As if he’d ever say that! But yes.

8:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This whole article is garbage

8:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've seen the stone several times the last concert didn't really cost me anything and I had a great seat

8:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank goodness someone saw the light.

You could continue to add, The Stones suing L'Wren Scott's estate for having to cancel a concert after her suicide.

6:21 PM  

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